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Re: First aquarium

PostPosted:06 Jun 2017 23:04
by Halocaridina
odin wrote:Interesting, what SG does the chaeto usually live in?
I don't know what specifically is the average, but from what I've researched, this species is found commonly in salt marshes and mangroves as well as reefs, so I imagine it is quite tolerant.

There is one laboratory study that says it can handle anywhere between 1.000 and 1.038.

On another note, I can see the nerites' eating patterns in the brown algal film on the glass. They are already doing a great job!

Re: First aquarium

PostPosted:06 Jun 2017 23:50
by AdeDunn
They're awesome for keeping glass and ornaments clean for sure!

As to Chaeto, the thing I keep reading is that the thin stuff isn't as hardy as the thick stuff, beyond that I have no idea. Found this though https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 014-0092-4

Re: First aquarium

PostPosted:07 Jun 2017 07:37
by odin
That's pretty neat, I've had better luck with the thinner ones :tongue: it still amazes me how well different plants do in some folks tanks and not in others.

Re: First aquarium

PostPosted:07 Jun 2017 12:46
by Halocaridina
AdeDunn wrote:They're awesome for keeping glass and ornaments clean for sure!

As to Chaeto, the thing I keep reading is that the thin stuff isn't as hardy as the thick stuff, beyond that I have no idea. Found this though https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 014-0092-4
I have had the opposite experience, ordered what was marked as a mixed batch of C. linum (thinner) and C. spiralis (thicker), and C. spiralis did not grow and mostly died off quickly. It was this that caused a major nutrient spike for me earlier on and led to a shrimp die-off. From what I have read, C. spiralis is a marine only species. It is also more rigid and brittle so harder to use for any sort of ornamental purpose.

Here are some photos of the two types from the supplier:
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Based on the picture in Fig.7 from the study you linked, the species described there seems more similar to C. linum.

Re: First aquarium

PostPosted:08 Jun 2017 02:08
by AdeDunn
Ahhh heck, who knows, could even be the thin I have. lol

Was sold as just Caematophora species. Seemed thick to me, but could be the thick is even thicker still as I've never seen it. :upsidedown:

Re: First aquarium

PostPosted:10 Jun 2017 13:01
by Halocaridina
The SG is now 1.007. Slowly raising it to 1.012. Saw 8 opae ula today. The snails are also doing good work clearing up the algae on the rocks now. I might get a small gravel vac to clear up some of the snail feces.

Re: First aquarium

PostPosted:10 Jun 2017 13:04
by odin
That's good news, yeah you can remove the poop if its annoying you but i would probably wait until they have removed most of the algae or you will have to disturb the tank a few more times then necessary.

Re: First aquarium

PostPosted:10 Jun 2017 13:04
by Halocaridina
AdeDunn wrote:Ahhh heck, who knows, could even be the thin I have. lol

Was sold as just Caematophora species. Seemed thick to me, but could be the thick is even thicker still as I've never seen it. :upsidedown:
This one seems to look like C. spiralis:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chaetomorpha- ... SwHHFY92m0

Re: First aquarium

PostPosted:10 Jun 2017 13:07
by Halocaridina
odin wrote:That's good news, yeah you can remove the poop if its annoying you but i would probably wait until they have removed most of the algae or you will have to disturb the tank a few more times then necessary.
What happens when the algae runs out? I do not want them to starve to death and crash the tank.

I have also turned off the lights totally now it is getting sunnier to reduce algae growth.

Re: First aquarium

PostPosted:10 Jun 2017 13:12
by odin
Halocaridina wrote:
odin wrote:That's good news, yeah you can remove the poop if its annoying you but i would probably wait until they have removed most of the algae or you will have to disturb the tank a few more times then necessary.
What happens when the algae runs out? I do not want them to starve to death and crash the tank.

I have also turned off the lights totally now it is getting sunnier to reduce algae growth.
You will find that once they have eaten all the brown algae they will just happily move around the tank eating algae that is hard for us to see but there is food so don't worry, i have 7 in my large tank and they just constantly graze and i don't have any 'visible' patches of algae but they are all fine. You should be able to have your tanks lights on like normal 12 hour on and 12 off with them inside cleaning up.